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John
Many here on this blog are republican . That is OK . Everyone is entitled to their own view . My question is wile Presidential hopeful RRand  Paul is sponsoring Right To Work laws preventing companies from entering into agreements  with labor. The reublican controlled house is also authoring their own version. Why are you not fighting this tooth and nail? Have you become pussies? This is the fight for our future. If Sen Paul bill everr passes you will not have a union anymore . No union means no retirement fund no medical / welfare fund.. Happily replacing us is 4 $25 hr workers with no benefits . Learn a lesson from 130 years ago and don't wait  until it's gone  to start the fight . Democrats and Republicans  need to unite against this  now. Put aside the petty squabbles and unite for the future of our trade
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You call this a union? Are you fucking kidding me? Don't blame republicans, blame your union leaders who have been sticking up your ass for years now. Are there not non union workers on your out of work list? How did that happen with all the money and votes we give the democrats? You gonna blame republicans for that? Republicans are the one trying to close the borders, and stop the insane flow of illegals. Democrats then make them out to be heartless for wanting to protect our borders. Democrats get lots of votes for that bullshit. They don't have the balls to tell the voters that you don't invite more people on a sinking ship. You lose a lot of liberal votes that way. Democrats are for government unions, not us! We pay our own way. The taxpayer doesn't pay for our pensions, we do. We pay for their pensions as well with our hard earned taxes. Think about that, we pay for our own pensions and their pensions too. How come you have to wait until 59 1/2 until the first $20,000 of pensions and annuities are tax free? Government workers can retire at 40 if they have 20 years and their first $20,000 is tax free. Are they better then us. We should have that benefit before them. We pay into our pensions ourselves. Guess who came up with that rule? Yeah, the pro union democrats. Government workers suck the taxpayer dry all their working days, and it continues when they retire. Why is Detroit bankrupt? Why is NYS the highest taxed state? All the big cities run by Democrats are a mess. Chicago is another perfect example. Obama's buddy Rahm Emanuel has ran that town into the ground like Diblasio is doing here. Tax, tax, tax, tax. Their answer to everything is taxes, and dumb democratic voters keep voting to have their taxes raised again, and again. The main reason all these democrat run cities are a mess is the relationship between unions and Democrats. They give these unions anything they want even if it bankrupts the city. They get votes and stay in office. They have been selling out American children for years because of their corrupt relationship with the teachers union. They'll do anything for votes. Tenure? What a digusting word. How can anyone have a job where they can't be fired? Nobody has that! It's insane when you can't even fire a fucking pedophile. The IRS just hired back 300 tax cheats who were fired and had stamps on their file saying "DO NOT HIRE". A country of 300 million and you can't find 300 people worthy of that job? The IRS has been the center of corruption for years now, and Obama wants to give them billions more of our tax money. The democrats have the IRS under their thumb. God help anyone with a different point of view then this socialist, terrorist loving scumbag in the White House. He had the IRS target hard working middleclass taxpayers because they had organizations with names like Patriot, or tea party. It doesn't get more scary than that. The IRS makes the lives of good Americans miserable on a daily basis, they don't need help from the Democrats. Listening to you cry about this union going down is pathetic. You have bigger problems than that coming to a theater near you very soon. He gave 5.5 million illegal immigrants work visas when there is no work for Americans, and you're complaining about republicans. My God, how stupid can people be?
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Dear Sir or Madam please contain your rage against any political party they are ALL PROSTITUTES!!!! I would direct you to our illustrious leader Doug McCarron and the corrupt governmental agencies who are legally allowed to be bribed with jobs after they're civil service. Perfect example Kenneth Conboy ex Federal Judge who now works for the UBC International. Corruption ran rampant under his tenure at the District Council yet we are still paying this man thru our leaderships will to steal everything they can for us and provide it to the contractors. Ask yourself why Paschal McGuinness is a vice president for the UBC and one of the people barred from working for the DC under a federal consent decree. Isn't it strange to any member that a judge and an alleged organized crime participator work together? So my friend i would ask you to direct your intense energy at questioning the shit out of the leadership and southern district court of NY(Berman). That would be a good direction of your energy. PS Republicans don't want immigration either because they're masters ( Corporations like slave labor) Thank you Bill Kane
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I am retired and read an awful great deal of political and union official disappointment and or actual criminal accusations. Is there an avenue where anyone can consult a lawyer to look into your concerns? If so, I wonder why I have not read about anyone doing so. It is my desire to reap the full benefit of the 30 years I put into the funds, and not continue to see less to live on, because of our very own elected officers!
  I am very disappointed with the welfare cost, and loss of funds that occurred since I retired in 2008 and I read that I am not alone.  
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Lets do a little thinking!!!!!!
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To blame Detroit on the Unions is not a correct notion. Do you believe that the union assembly line workers design all the cars and the parts? Because they didn't the COMPANIES did. Do you believe that I a registered Independent that votes for democrats wants illegal aliens sucking me dry too? NO! Its the same if I believed that you wanted to be controlled by a corporation. Although most Republicans and many democrats are very comfortable with that scenario.I have no problem with government unions not every municipal worker is a louse.Besides the more unions they're are the more strength we all have? Right unless you don't really believe in Unions? Im trying to point out to you that your anger only clouds your perception of what is logical and real. Do you not like the idea of the government helping you one day? You worked all your life and paid into all those programs you deserve to access them if need be. Thanks for reading Bill Kane
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Politicians want to help employers maintain the power they have over employees, by gutting any institution that might help employees tilt the balance in their direction. Whether you’re a boss or a governor, toppling  your opponents by any means necessary is smart strategy. Right-to-work laws are not so good at expanding freedom, but they are good at ensuring American workers remain disenfranchised in the one arena in which their rights are most restricted, eight or more hours a day, five or more days a week.
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joe
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listen,everyone has their own opinion why the unions are not the same anymore. whether they are correct in their opinions is another story. I am sure their  are many reasons. but try going to work in another country and see what you get? assuming that your a hard working middle class AMERICAN?
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Avalanche
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Your 100 % wrong 100% of the time.  By the way government and state union employees pay for their own pensions not the tax payers.  And when the republicans lose illegal immigrant workers at slave wages they want to send them home.  You’re a paranoid racist!

Vote for republicans and all the pensions and social security money will go to the greedy investment bankers.  If you’re greedy or racist vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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tree fiddy
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Another guy drinking the fox news kool-aid.
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tree fiddy
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You need to get your facts right. NY state workers pay no state or city tax on their pensions.Only federal tax they pay.
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Yeah, republicans, and fox news are the reason your union is sticking it up the asses of the members. Also, if you don't believe that the insane pensions given to union workers in Detroit isn't the reason they are bankrupt, your nuts. Detroit has been run by liberal democrats since forever. Dirty deals with lobbyists and special interest groups for votes. Now Obama is asking congress for billions more for the IRS when federal workers owe the government billions. Why isn't he collecting? Why is he sucking us dry for more? Why is his buddy Al Sharpton allowed to get away with not paying millions he owes? Anyone of us would be in jail for what he gets away with. Those corporations you hate so much have kept you working all these years. The trade unions in NY have made so much money from Goldman Sachs, Citi bank, Bank of America, and hundreds of other big corporations its not funny. Don't worry though, we're chasing away lots of companies with the highest corporate tax rate in the world. How many jobs have to be lost before the moron democrats realize that you have to give job creators a reason to want to do business in the greatest country in the world. They have an obligation to their stock holders, and their company to make a profit. You dont make a profit giving half your fucking money to the government so they can spend billions on global warming, and illegal immigrants. We have more energy resources than any country in the world and we don't capitalize on any of it because of the liberal radicals running this fucking country. This asshole cant even get the Keystone Pipeline done. A fucking no brainer. Why? It's safer than the carbons we produce using the rails. Keep voting democrat you Einsteins. The middleclass is on oxygen for almost 7 years now because of the left and their insane policies, and you want more of the same. You deserve it. The cost of Obamacare hasn't even begun. I hope you all go broke. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny watching you idiots still blaming republicans, and fox news even though you have been running the country for years. Pathetic. It's always everyone else's fault. All the republican run states are doing well. Especially where there is fracking, the evil nemisis of the left. Then you look at Detroit, New York(Albany,king of the corrupt democrat), Chicago(the famous home of Chicago politics that Obama brought to Washington), California(hopeless), all run by the big government, tax and spend Democrats. Everyone of you assholes out there struggling to get by deserve it. You bought it, and your still buying it. Ask Jonathan Gruber. You know, the Obamacare guy that all the democrats praised, and now dont remember. He knew Obamacare would go over big because of the stupidity of the American people. He forgot to clarify. The stupidity of the American Democrat. The low information voter. He fooled knowbody on the right. Conservatives called it all spot on, and were called racists that just didn't like Obama. Check the videotape. SPOT ON ABOUT ALL THE LIES!
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Detroit – — A judge has dismissed a lawsuit by unions after finding there was nothing illegal when state police temporarily closed the Capitol while the Legislature in 2012 debated Michigan’s controversial right-to-work law.

Court of Claims Judge Deborah Servitto said the rights of the public were not diminished when the Capitol was closed due to overcrowding. She noted that some members of the public and news reporters were in the House and Senate, and neither chamber approved the bills at that time.

“Not all members of the public who wanted to have direct, in-person observation of the legislative proceedings were able to,” the judge acknowledged Friday. “But just as a road is open to public travel even though its capacity is finite, a meeting may be open to the public even where physical access to all members of the public is not available.”  http://www.detroitnews.com/business/
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To tree fiddy: on those federal taxes the first $20,000 of pensions and annuities are tax free even if they can retire at 40. You have to wait until 59 1/2 years of age. Why? Democrats are for unions aren't they? I guess we are not as worthy as the government unions. You say the state workers don't pay state and city taxes. That's 10 times worse than getting a $20,000 break. That's ok with you? NY is the highest taxed state in the country. They are part of the reason you and me pay so much. Wasn't it the democrats that said everyone should pay their fair share. That don't seem fair to me. You give those government union workers shit like that and they'll vote democrat until they die. What does it do for you, the private union worker? and to the guy who says they pay for their own pensions. Really? We the taxpayer pay their salaries, and a portion of their salaries go to fund their pensions. Incredible pensions, and incredible contracts that were rewarded them for a lifetime of guaranteed votes. The smart economists knew that these pensions could never be paid for over time. So when the money runs out they tax, tax, tax, but it's still to much of a hole to get out of. Get the vote, worry about going broke later. Example: Detroit. Labor laws, and the democrats phoney bullshit about standing with the union worker is one of many issues middleclass families have to deal with to have a better life. What good is them backing unions when they do so many other things to counter that and make it much worse for us? How can giving 5.5 million illegal immigrants work visas be good for us workers? There is no work for us. These rich liberal elite bastards in politics, and in hollywood, and the music business that support this shit will never be effected by it. Obama's elite brats go to private schools, like most other democrats kids. Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, ect. All filty rich. Their kids schools wont be overcrowded. They all go to private schools. Their school taxes wont go up. Ours will, how can they not? Our hospitals will be overcrowded as well, and God knows we don't go to the same hostpitals, or use the same doctors as these rich pricks. Funny how the also rich republicans are against all this shit, especially open borders. Republicans have been crying about enforcing the borders for years now, and the democrats do everything in their power to let them keep coming. Alot of latino vote  are at stake. The middleclass will feel the effects of all this shit. All for future votes, and if you don't know that you're hopeless. They'll tell us it's good for the economy. They'll tell you the immigrants will pay taxes. They won't tell you they don't make much money so they all get alot of it back in returns. They won't tell you that they are entitled to the EIC going back three years that they weren't even here. I dont even want to get started on this terrorist shit. If Iran gets the nuke it's only a matter of time before it gets in the hands of a terrorist organization, and anyone with half a brain knows they have no problem using it and killing themselves along with it. The liberals will still blame Bush, and get away with it thatnks to the liberal mainstream media Obama/democrat protectors. The journalism profession has become a fucking disgrace, and the only people telling America what's really going on are called liers. This is why we made a man president who had absolutely no qualifications, and absolutely horrible associations. They convinced you idiots to vote for someone who you never heard of before he started to campaign. That's how good the liberal media propoganda machine is. A man who was a community organizer (nice term for blackmailer), and then a senator for 2 years. A senator who voted present more than any member of congress. He just filled a seat. He also taught at the university of Chicago. Still knowbody knows what tell hell he did there. A no show job. We cant get any of his school records. The guy who calls the marine corp, the marine corpse. The guy who says there are 57 states. The guy who says they speak Austrian in Austria. And they called Bush an idiot. That's how good they are. Especially MSNBC, or as I like to call them MSLSD. Look what this administration has done to Israel. The only friends we have over there. It makes no sense. The only country that actually knows how to fight these scumbags. One has to come to the conclusion that Obama is deliberately trying to weaken our national secruity. What else makes sense? He's always defending the bad guys, and always finding fault with America. These people are trying to wipe out christians and jews. A genocide has begun and this moron is worried about insulting muslims. All you Irish guys out there are catholic, and I guess the majority of our union is also, yet you don't care about your own religion being massacred. I guess because a pro union democrat is the one ignoring it, and he's good for unions. Fucking disgusting.
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tree fiddy
To TD,didn't say I was in agreement with  tax on city pensions.Just stating facts. I think it's total bullshit.The person I know was 65 when he retired.
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Michael D
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Jordan Carney of the Hill: "The Senate will vote Wednesday on a GOP-backed motion that would undo a controversial National Labor Relations Board rule that makes it easier for workers to hold union elections.  Republicans are using the Congressional Review Act that allows lawmakers to undo regulation through a motion of disapproval, which needs a majority vote in both chambers. The motion can't be filibustered or amended, which will help it bypass Democratic opposition. If the bill gets to his desk, however, the White House says President Obama will veto it. Republicans say the rule is unfair to businesses."
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Independent
I say again that if you align yourself with one party, you will drink what they are serving. There is wrong-doers in both parties. We live in a country where, so far, you can start your own company. Then you will have a good idea what it takes to make a profit. There is a lot of corporate bashing going on, and you know if it wasn't for them, you would not enjoy the wages you get. Sure there is corruption, being union, you know it too well.
  Have you looked at the states that are responsible spenders, with a surplus. Then those that are deeply in debt, and constantly looking for new ways to tax their way out? So if you can't see and acknowledge faults that prevail in both parties, you are drinking from a cup that you won't admit, doesn't have your best interest at heart.
  Maybe accountability is a bad word for you? Maybe selfishness is more to your liking?
  Why has Doug McCarron aligned himself with both parties at certain times? Was it for your benefit?
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