Greetings my fellow Carpenters,
Looks like another bullshit, behind the scenes power play has been done again! If you recall, the cbox got quite a reaction when the truth about EST Michael Bilello came to surface with his ultra secret meetings with Duane Moore and his dismally failed attempt to have the Carpenters re-enter the AFL-CIO. What the EST failed to realize was that his meetings were recorded!! Ouch Mikey!! That must have really stung when you came to the office on Monday morning and realized that you were not as secretive and slick as you once thought! As you can see by the cbox before John "expired" it, you were the hot topic of conversation. What did you and Walsh conspire on Monday morning? Did you discuss damage control with your buddy? I know for a fact you did! These walls at 395 are quite "transparant"!! Now boys and girls for the juicy part. You see, John Musemeci was also closely monitoring the cbox just as Walsh does. When the story exploded about EST Bilello conducting secret meetings behind the RO's back and violating the UBC constitution and district council bylaws., John saw a way to have his charges dropped. Walsh and Bilello as we all know hate the rampant feeds of information that members post in the cbox and here, so the deal was struck! Bilello makes a outreach call to John and says that if you shut the cbox down so people will no longer post the TRUTH about him, he would tell his best buddy Walsh to veto the charges! Now, ironically, before this deal transpired, John ripped the RO and Walsh for trampling on his freedom of speech and democratic rights. Scroll down and read his rant regarding this. When Bilello requested that John shut the cbox down, he then went to Walshie-poo and made the deal to drop Johnny boys charges.
Way to go John!! You silenced the members on the cbox, made a back door deal to have your charges vanish into thin air and...the worst part....PRAISING DENNIS WALSH FOR A JOB WELL DONE!! All 3 of you are nothing more than a embarrasement to true democracy and free speech. Hypocrites! Liars! Bullshit artists that have once again shown the members how shady and unethical you all are! Remember one thing though gentleman....the recordings!! Stay tuned boys an girls as the next chapter of this story unfolds!!
Untril then, this is Harvey Hotdogs signing off. God bless democracy! God bless freedom of speech! PS- John, take heed of your own actions and leave this freedom of speech posted for all to see. Last time, you removed quite a bit of content to save your buddy Walsh from further damage control!
Do you mean the membership has been duped into beleiving this to be a credible undertaking, ya know informing, mobilizing & all that jazz.
John m gave the ip addesses and router numbers to Walsh as part of the deal.
None of what Harvey Hot dogs says surprises me. Harvey tells it straight to the members and is always right. Hey John, kudos to Harvey Hot dogs! He always exposes the real inside dealings of the NYCDCC and has them running in circles once he exposes their grave misgivings
Paranoia aside, there was no quid-pro-quo here - period.
Irrespective of what you believe relative to John's case with the D.C., Mr. Lebo spiraled out of control on a personal & emotional vendetta against John, for as yet his unstated reasons which he masked and attempted to cover & make relevant by tying his personal feelings to legitimate Council business. He drew others into the effort and whipped others into an emotional frenzy which is what you attempt here.
The mere weight of his case and a preponderance of the evidence under known settled law and/or precedent in NLRA Sec. 7, LMRDA & First Amendment/Free Speech cases were irrefutable. Prudent individuals would have to consider that the case was a waste of valuable Council time & resources, better spent elsewhere, noting that had this continued, John would have prevailed. All parties conced this is the best outcome and can now move forward on other critical matters.
C-Box as a tool for free debate & discussion was a valuable tool for those chatting online on many important topics. However, a good majority of it was also juvenile, disrespectful & it centered on perverted & sick-twisted sexual content all of which has absolutley nothing to do with Union Carpenter issues or concerns. Its sickening to have to attempt to read through the trash to get to relevant topical issues of merit warranting an intelligent discussion.
You still have Twitter & A Mobilized Membership above to post whatever you like, but the fact is C-Box was a ready embarassment as noted above; and, John, as an ISP can run his site however he sees fit, irrespective of your opinion here which remains posted for all to read, debate & digest.
In the Craigslist case, Federal Judge Richard Berman stated:
Judge Berman dismissed the case on the grounds that Craigslist has immunity as an Internet service provider under the Communications Decency Act of 1996, 47 U.S.C. §230, which states that "no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as a publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." 157blogspot is an interactive computer service, albeit, for Carpenters.
Sometimes you gotta take out the trash or the whole place will stink. C-Box was beginning to reek, so John exercised his right as the ISP provider to do just that.
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The repeated posts that John gave up IPs or that a router number is obtainable is pure BS and just a fabrication of a delusional mind.
First here is a copy of the cbox admin panel that any cbox owner,such as John sees
With selected: Ban | Delete | Report spam
Select All | Search | Refresh
Name / Email
Stop the crying
Look Ma No Router Number
Date / IP :15 Jan 13 18:08
While your IP is shown to the admin the router story is BS.
John gave Walsh our IP.
More delusional BS.
John would not do so unless court ordered. Further the IP is worthless unless the owner posted with it on the internet elsewhere using their name and identifying info OR if you have an email in which every senders IP appears.So despite the BS Walsh WOULD NOT EVEN ASK John for IPs. He would bypass him to file one of these to get your identifying info.Its called A pre-lawsuit action for discovery to identify responsible persons. Here is a sample..
Summons for Discovery
You are hereby notified that on this date, a Petition, a copy of which is attached, was filed in the above court seeking an order of pre-suit discovery. Pursuant to law, a hearing will be held to determine whether such an order shall be entered in this case. If you wish to contest the entry of such order, you must appear at this hearing at New York City, NY in Room 2201 on , , 2012.
Clerk of the Circuit Court
Unless a shorter period is fixed by the court, the summons shall be served at least 14 days before the date of hearing, in the manner provided for service of summons in other civil cases. If service cannot with due diligence be made upon the respondent, the court may, by order, provide for service by publication or otherwise.
First Amended Verified Petition for Discovery
NOW COMES John Smith (“Petitioner”), by and through his attorneys at Au, LLC, pursuant to Supreme Court Rule 224, and for his First Amended Verified Petition For Discovery (“Petition”) against Respondents Comcast, AT&T Internet Services, Inc., , Service Provider Corporation, Inc., Verizon Wireless Services, LLC, and MSN Online, Inc., states as follows:
This is a pre-lawsuit action for discovery to identify responsible persons.
Petitioner intends to file suit, sounding in an action for defamation, against the person and/or entity responsible for the authorship and online publication of statements made on 157blogspot.com.
Petitioner is filing this Petition so that Respondent can identify the IP addresses and account information of persons which authored and published defamatory comments concerning and relating to Petitioner.
This is just part of a Summons for discovery. You would then serve this on 73 Old Dublin Pike, Suite 10 #315, Doylestown, PA, 18901-2491, US to start..or other places depending on your own circumstances. This just happens to be the address for jerk offs who post from their IPhone or Ipad and think it hides them
Save us the usual Harvey Hotdogs worthless dribble and the other 10 posts with you answering yourself with scitzo multiple identities . Perhaps that is why CBox is closed.
"bullshit, behind the scenes power play has been done again!" Actually this is just more of YOUR Bullshit. Seriously. You want US to believe that Walsh traded a veto of Johns charges for the IPs of a couple of cbox jerk offs. The reality is nobody gives a shit who you are.Your own mother doesnt want your IP
"The cbox got quite a reaction when the truth about EST Michael Bilello came to surface"
Bullshit. The only action it got was you posting your "He was wearing a wire" story and then you answering yourself ten times with different IDs as if somebody really gave a shit. The only action it got was for somebody to tell you to post the tape or STFU.Which of course you refused to do
"As you can see by the cbox before John "expired" it, you were the hot topic of conversation"
The only conversation that was going on was between YOU and the voices in YOUR head.
"Now, ironically, before this deal transpired, John ripped the RO and Walsh for trampling on his freedom of speech and democratic rights.” Scroll down and read his rant regarding this."
Another one of your BS lies . We can all read and nowhere in the post does John rip Walsh.
I am not a supporter of Walsh one way or another but what he did with the veto is on record and will be before Berman for him to see. Walsh told the truth about Biello and his cronies and spit in UBC attorney Murphys face.Murphy made it clear in his response to Walsh that Biello and his fellow jerk offs were going to railroad John with Section 52 just a they do all around the rest of the UBC. The wording in the veto is a clear slap in the face to the UBC the accusations against the NYC Council are not subtle.Lets hope the next time Mr Murphy is in court before Berman that his part in the attempt to railroad John M is discussed.Walsh has just put in writing by this veto that the chance for NY Council to prove they can be be trusted to function under Section 52 as the system for members justice has been a failure. This is not just a victory for freedom of speech but also a stomping of Biello and his cronies first attempt to railroad a member under Section 52 as is done in the rest of the UBC. The courts cases are clear on Johns rights to discuss and criticize UBC ignorance.The courts have made it clear over and over the Union label or UBC name tag does not exist to stifle free speech and silence opposition to ignorance that "Only cost you 8 Million" Further the charges were brought by Bill Lebo who had to quite the council or face possible action from the RO Offcie.Lebo ran for it instead with an attempted Biello cover up as a parting gift for his $182,000 a year Secretary. In "spite" all this these jerks offs were going to trial no matter what just to make members believe that their UBC tee shirts and UBC name tags makes them above the law and lower than a Forde.
The NY Council Regime wanted to go back to Section 52 because they can use it to deny members rights and railroad members who speak out or stand up. The Scott and Josh Twins made it clear by their response to Johns request for help from this blatant attack on his rights and as Walsh stated a clear case of "harassment", that the will be using their offices and positions to facilitate what ever screw job the council desires.Their response was nothing more than a lecture on "how dare you" tell the membership the Unions business and what morons Biello and his crew are. Walsh bitched slapped that with the veto and I would hardly believe he would do it as a trade off for the IPs of a couple of cbox jerk offs.Its to bad you want to distract and tarnish this with your delusional BS.
What your also missing is that people like YOU would never get the same treatment. John didnt just get this. He earned it. He convinced Walsh that a veto was in order. He educated himself and was able to defend himself. He got the citations together and gave them to Walsh. John gave Walsh the Price case and other information that allowed Walsh to decide in his favor. Remember what Murphy said in his response to Walsh "Mr. Musumeci, who is not an attorney, does a commendable job of recognizing certain LMRDA statutory goals "John has dedicated his time and efforts to provide information and info to the membership. Along the way he created what will finally beat the UBC, McCarron and the Biellos... an EDUCATED and INFORMED member.
No you would never get your charges vetoed because you will always be Harvey Hotdogs. Your to busy posting delusional BS to ever become an educated and informed member.
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& so will the stench follow unto the new nether regions of comment, as has already started here @ 157 bspt. Now what????
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Harvey Hotdogs: Thank you for letting me know the Cbox expired. But enough with your theories, while very amusing and fascinating, they are completely untrue.The simple truth is I did not notice Cbox expired, I was wondering why it went quiet. I did not get an email saying my subscription expired, I renewed the yearly subscription for $20, so let the discussion begin!.
Ps Below is a copy of the email received from Cbox, in case you think I am making this up, remind me again in 2014, thanks!
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