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To vote for Hillary is to vote for corporate imperialism and the suppression of our constitutional rights.
Voting for Hillary is voting that approves election fraud.
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The democrats stole that election from Sanders. Folks gave Bernie 220 million to fight and he SOLD OUT. Bernie is a SELL OUT. Clinton is a corporate puppet. A hypocrite, as evidenced by the massive armed guard that protects the clinton massage parlor in Westchester and a liar whose lies about lying. Be careful of those lemmings on this site who back clinton. They have their own agenda from George Soros. The idea of democrats is to destroy the middle class. A two tier society, the elite and they oppressed.  
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Trump seems to be proposing more tax cuts for the super rich; Trickle-down stuff that doesn't work. He seems to be afraid to have debates when they'll be one on one and he can't just bully and insult his way past a large group that doesn't get time to really probe what he's saying. He's afraid to release his tax returns. Okay, "afraid" is a loaded word, so I'll just say-he won't release his tax returns and that concerns me as well. I don't like how he speaks, rambling and unfocused, and I really don't think he's anywhere near being able to do the job. I think that bosses are used to being bosses, and being the president (as opposed to being a dictator or King) will not be a good fit for him. I think Bernie is just getting started and I look forward to his influence in the years to come. Trump wants to end the estate tax while dems want higher minimum wages. Trump often doesn't pay subs and walks out on his debts. Trump has said wages are too high and he has his products manufactured overseas with cheap labor. Trump is a union buster who works with us when he has to. If he was just joking when he said second amendment people could take care of Clinton, or if he was just being sarcastic when he said Obama founded ISIS, well those were undignified and unpresidential remarks at best, treasonous at worst. He's dropping like a rock in the polls and his response is to gin up anger and resentment. Sure, I'm just a lemming.
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Well trump is also proposing a more simple tax bracket creating ess loop holes and no fed tax on anyone making less then 50k a year but media wont say that.
Good luck with socialism ..or move to venezula
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Hi Ded. I was on Trump's website this morning and the details aren't there as far as his tax proposals. I was trying to get it from the horse's mouth but as much as this guy talks he doesn't communicate very clearly or consistently. So you think it's a good thing if no one pays federal on their first 50,000? Isn't that more like socialism? Just get the tax money from the higher earners? I can't tell what his plan really is, like I said, but I gather he's saying we get a few thousand back while his buddies get a few million back and the country goes trillions deeper in debt so I don't know...I guess he'll cut our social security? Just sound like the same republican plan that's always offered. But like I said, it's hard to say because he just doesn't run a professional campaign.
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Actually socialism is more on the lines of taxing everyone at an extreme rate giving more power and money to a corrupt goverment and giving large busniness a reason to leave the country and find money elsewhere or get breaks from the govt because small middle class business owners cant afford the taxes or regulations anymore giving only room for large corpoations to do backdoor deals with te govt to stay in business..tax cuts are actually very opposite socialism..
And he had an entire speech and laid out his entire economic and tax plans and im sorry im mistaken original proposal was for 50k and under no federal tax but its not as high now  
And lets talk about union labor biggest opponent..illegal immigrants driving down the cost of labor..why would we continue to give our money to democratic leaders who in turn put our biggest competion our jobs
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Hi. I've been looking for anything in writing about Trump's tax plan. No dice. Let me know if you can find anything to refer to with any depth. Early criticisms of his plan say it will add 10 trillion to our national debt over ten years. One my problems with Trump is the vagueness of his proposals, and that I just don't believe a word he says. His claims have no weight with me. He says what he says to get a signature on a contract and then, whattaya know....it's all negotiable again and suppliers don't get paid, students get ripped off, investors get stiffed, workers don't get good wages....its just a wake of misery in service of that guy's ego.
When I hear about excessive regulation hurting small business I am very, very sympathetic. My problem is that I think fixing that involves really smart, dedicated wonks, not the people Trump wants involved. Issues need to be fixed, but I see "too much regulation" as a smokescreen that will hurt some really basic things like clean air, clean water, and a planet that doesn't cook itself to death.
Socialism wasn't the right word. I guess I was surprised that you were pro no tax on the first fifty grand because I usually hear Trump supporters complaining about "people who just want free stuff..." In any case, his overall plan, as far as I can deduce without any actual content on his site, is yet another huge giveaway to the mega wealthy that adds to the national debt which then becomes the argument to kill social security...you know, the same old republican screw anyone that's not rich boilerplate....why do people keep falling for that?
About the illegal workers, "billionaire" real estate developers want cheap labor. Why do you trust this guy?
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