The Carpenters Union Now Allows (Company Men) To Act as Shop Stewards...Without Requiring ANY Shop Steward Certifications!!!

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The Carpenters Union Now Allows (Company Men) To Act as Shop Stewards...Without Requiring ANY Shop Steward Certifications!!!

bulldog88
Another BAD Rule Created By the DC....Currently The DC Requires Shop Stewards To Attend Classes To Get CERTIFIED....These Classes Take About 1 Year To Finish....Shop Stewards Also Have To Pay $150 BUCKS Every Few Years For Their Laser Permit....Another Few Bucks For Their Fire Department Permit....Spend Money Traveling Into The City To Renew Their Classes..The DC Also Plans To Spend Over 1 MILLION BUCKS For (The Full Mobility Program) & Electronic Devices For Shop Stewards To Prevent Illegal Activity and Corruption.......And Now The DC Will Allow (Company Men) To Be SHOP STEWARDS On (Two Man Jobs) Without Any Permits Or Certifications At All.....WTF Is Going On Here?.....
Proposed Agreement
Between the
New York City District Council of Carpenters
And the
Association of Wall-Ceiling & Carpentry Industries of New York, Inc.................
 Manning Provision-
The first carpenter on the jobsite shall be the Foreman and may beselected by the Employer. The second carpenter shall be the shop steward referred by theUnion. The remainder of the carpenters shall be selected by the Employer. Any employees notmembers of the NYCDCC shall be matched 1:1 from the NYCDCC Job Referral List.
 Two man jobs-
For jobs only requiring two employees, the Employer will be permitted to workwithout a certified shop steward without a time limitation. Any employee who is not a memberof the NYCDCC will be matched 1:1 from the NYCDCC Job Referral List. The Union will assignone of the two members with the duties of the shop steward. In the event of any violation of the two man rule, the contractor will lose this privilege for the remainder of the term of thecontract. If there is a third employee dispatched by the NYCDCC Job Referral List, thatemployee shall be a certified steward and the steward will remain for the duration of that
project. This is not to be used as a “head start.
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bulldog88
Allowing (NON CERTIFIED COMPANY MEN) To Act as (Shop Stewards) On (Two Man Jobs) Is a VIOLATION of...... The Compliance Provisions Related to Full Mobility Under the Collective Bargaining Agreement Between the District Council and the Association of Wall-Ceiling & Carpentry Industries of New York, Inc......
1. Shop Stewards Electronically Reporting Hours

The first compliance feature involves Shop Stewards electronically reporting on a daily basis for the particular job site on which a Shop Steward is working the employer's name, unique job or project number assigned by the District Council,the names along with unique United Brotherhood of Carpenters ("UBC") membership numbers for each carpenter on the job, job classification for each (eg, foreman, journeyman, apprentice), and the regular straight time and any overtime or premium hours worked that day (including the times in and out).

Each Shop Steward will be supplied with a portable wireless device by which s/he will enter the information described immediately above and then submit that information to the District Council. The information will be forwarded nearly simultaneously to the employer and to the District Council Employee Benefit Funds. The employer will have five (5) business days from the close of its payroll week to approve or dispute any of the Shop Steward's entries, with the CBA providing for a procedure by which discrepancies can be discussed and either reconciled or submitted to arbitration.

Your Honor is respectfully referred to Exhibit 6 of the Fifth Interim Report of the Review Officer (Dec. 3, 2012) to see screen shots from the trial programs of what a member will see when logging in to check his or her jobs and what a Shop Steward will see when logging in and then moving through the various functions to enter jobsite information as described above. For Your Honor's convenience, a copy of that Exhibit 6 is annexed to this letter as Exhibit B.

Since November 2012, six WC&C member employers and their carpenter employees have been field testing the technology. All reports have been positive. The District Council is prepared to have representatives from its vendor, Standard Data Corp., provide a real time demonstration of the system and process to Your Honor as part of a conference on this matter.

The costs of the electronic devices-including the hardware, technical support, insurance, guaranteed replacement and parts for six years-will be $1,000 each. The plan is initially to purchase 1,000 devices. The not-for-profit New York City and Vicinity Carpenters Labor-Management Corporation,which has net assets of over $10 million, has already provided a grant of $400,000 towards the purchase price. The District Council, the WC&C, and the Review Officer will be approaching the other employer directors of the Labor-Management Corporation for an additional grant of $600,000 to cover the complete cost of the first 1,000 units.

Additional costs that are currently to be covered by the District Council are estimated to be $80,000 for the one-time software licensing fee, a $15,000 per month internet connection fee, and $7,000 per month for technical support.

The electronic devices will be programmed to be dedicated solely to the Shop Steward's job reporting duties. Consequently, there will only be access to the Shop Steward's dedicated District Council e-mail through which s/he will be able to correspond with District Council representatives on job related issues. The only two websites that the electronic devices will be able to access will be the jobs reporting site and the District Council's website.

The District Council is training Shop Stewards on the new reporting procedures through classes with hands-on training with the software and website. Each class lasts approximately two to four hours. As a backup, the District Council plans on moving some current staff members from the OWL department in order to be available to take Shop Steward reports by telephone. The District Council anticipates that this backup reporting as well as technical support for Shop Stewards submitting their time reports using the electronic devices will be available daily to 10:00 p.m.

As noted above, the proposed start-up date is March 4, 2013, when the WC&C employer members would be able to use full mobility and the carpenters would receive the first wage and benefit increases under the CBA. During this roll out period, approximately fifty new units and trained Shop Stewards would be added every week to the initial complement of approximately 150 devises and trained Shop Stewards until the full complement of devices and trained Shop Stewards are reached on or about March 18, 2013. During this transition period, the District Council will provide the resources for Shop Stewards without the devices to call into a central number every working day to report the jobsite information details to staff, who will then enter the information electronically.

2. Carpenters' Ability to Monitor Hours on which They Worked

ln conjunction with the Shop Stewards' jobs reporting program described immediately above in point 1, there will be the complementary ability for individual members to check the jobs on which they worked. This initiative-entitled Operation Watch Dog-will allow an individual member to access the secure job reporting website to review any jobs on which s/he was employed. Should the member be unable to access a particular job on which s/he was employed-indicating that his or her hours weren't entered by the Shop Steward-or accesses a job and sees that his or her or other members' hours were not reported accurately, the member will be able to report by name or anonymously any discrepancies to the District Council's Inspector General or the Review Officer for investigation. Your Honor is again referred to Exhibit 6 of the Review Officer's Fifth Interim Report to view the steps a member would take to check electronically the report of hours on his or her job (copy annexed here to as Exhibit B).

3. Jobsite Integrity Program

Besides the electronically based reporting and verifying of carpenters' names and hours on a job, the Inspector General's office, in conjunction with the Review Officer, will be instituting a jobsite integrity program. That program will be staffed in the following manner.There will be sixteen(16)retired carpenters who will have been vetted by the Inspector General's and the Review Officer's respective offices. Those retirees, all of whom will each have had decades of experience as working rank and file carpenters, will be assigned primarily to monitor one and two-person jobs that will not ordinarily have a Shop Steward assigned. Of the approximately 500 WC&C jobs going on at any one time, approximately 150 to 200 of them involve less than three carpenters. Retirees receiving retirement benefits under the District Council's Pension Fund are allowed to work no more than 39 hours per month. Consequently, the 16 retirees will be divided into four groups of four each, so that each group's members will work only one week out of every four weeks.

The Inspector General's office will schedule the retired carpenters in such a way that there will be the possibility of coverage 24 hours per day and 7 days per week as necessary. As noted above, their main priority will be to visit one and two-person jobs because the CBA will not require a Shop Steward for those jobs.

The payroll costs of the 16 retired carpenter inspectors-who will be paid starting hourly salaries of $46.15 (to be increased as wage rates increase under the WC&C CBA) up to 39 hours per month are estimated to be at least $375,000 annually. These costs are to be borne entirely by the District Council. The retired members will not work any weekly overtime.

lt should be noted that the new jobsite integrity inspectors will be in addition to the continuing efforts of the present complement of personnel in the Inspector General's office, who will continue to monitor jobs and investigate leads and tips concerning violations of collective bargaining agreements and corruption. The Inspector General's office currently employs ten full-time investigators, including the Inspector General, three carpenter inspectors, three retired law enforcement veterans, and three administrative inspectors.

An additional component of the jobsite integrity program that will complement the measures described above in point 2will include a comprehensive publicity and reinforcement campaign. The publicity will involve a mailing to all members about the jobsite integrity program and how a member can report suspected problems with staffing and hours by anonymously calling 855-UBC-TIP Sore-mailingig@nycdcigoffice.org. ln addition, members will be provided with placards, pocket cards, carpenter pencils, and helmet (i.e., hard hat) stickers with the iconic bulldog and the slogan "Operation Watchdog: Members Protecting Benefits with Technology." Copies of the type of letter and these other items are annexed collectively to this letter as Exhibit C.

4. Sanctions Against Contractors Found Cheating

The final element for insuring ongoing jobsite integrity with the introduction of full mobility will be the District Council's ability under the CBA's grievance and arbitration procedures to seek sanctions against any contractor found to have willfully and with bad intent cheated on staffing, hours, pay, benefit contributions, and the like (e.g., not reporting all carpenters on a job, under reporting hours worked, reporting overtime hours as straight time,paying carpenters in cash).

As noted above in point 1, under the new CBA, an employer will have the opportunity to dispute a discrepancy between the personnel or hours reported by the Shop Steward. lf the dispute cannot be resolved between the contractor and the District Council, the matter will be submitted to an independent labor arbitrator for resolution.

ln those instances where the contractor has been found by the independent labor arbitrator to have engaged in deliberate, willful, and bad intentioned violations of the CBA with respect to staffing and hours, the arbitrator will have the remedial power to issue an award requiring a contractor found guilty of such deliberate, willful, and bad intentioned cheating to forfeit the right to full mobility staffing. Such a sanction under the CBA would require the contractor to staff all future jobs with at least fifty percent (50%) of the carpenters coming from the OWL while also being obligated to continue granting all wage and benefit increases for the remainder of the CBA's term. lt should be noted that this aspect of compliance enforcement is not a strict liability one and that an arbitrator would be empowered to award forfeiture of full mobility and a return to the original 50:50 ratio in hiring only upon determining that the contractor had in fact acted willfully and with bad intent in violation of the staffing and pay rolling requirements of the collective bargaining agreement.

A Shop Steward suspected of failing accurately to report personnel or hours will be subject to review under the existing District Council Bylaws and procedures for reviewing issues related to Shop Steward performance, with possible additional training or forfeiture of Shop Steward certification. A Shop Steward found to have deliberately misreported personnel or hours would also be subject to removal as a Shop Steward by the District Council, to veto from the Shop Steward position by the Review Officer, and to referral of his and the employer's misconduct to law enforcement.

The respective leaderships of the WC&C and the District Council believe that the threat of such drastic sanctions will serve as a powerful deterrent to corruption.

The District Council has worked for many months with its outside vendor to develop and test the new electronic reporting procedures described above. Inasmuch as the initial wage and benefit increases under the new WC&C CBA are contingent on the ability of the contractors to have available full mobility in hiring, it would be appreciated if Your Honor were able to schedule a conference next week at which the parties would have the opportunity to address any questions or concerns that the Court may have.

Respectfully submitted,

James M. Murphy
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bulldog88
Is Judge Berman Aware Of This?.........Section 1 States....The District Council is training Shop Stewards on the new reporting procedures through classes with hands-on training with the software and website. Each class lasts approximately two to four hours. .......Section 4 States....A Shop Steward suspected of failing accurately to report personnel or hours will be subject to review under the existing District Council Bylaws and procedures for reviewing issues related to Shop Steward performance, with possible additional training or forfeiture of Shop Steward certification. A Shop Steward found to have deliberately misreported personnel or hours would also be subject to removal as a Shop Steward by the District Council, to veto from the Shop Steward position by the Review Officer, and to referral of his and the employer's misconduct to law enforcement. .........How Can You TAKE AWAY A SHOP STEWARDS CERTIFICATION....WHEN THE SHOP STEWARD IS A COMPANY MAN....AND IS NOT CERTIFIED TO BEGIN WITH?
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bulldog88
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I Guess Company Men Who Are Allowed To Be (UN-CERTIFIED) Shop Stewards On 2 Man Jobs....Dont Have To Follow The Union RULES/BYLAWS.....Or Even (Background/Criminal Record Checks).....Newly Required Forms for All Shop Stewards Due by December 3,2012
IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR ALL SHOP STEWARDS–From NYCDC

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

Section 39 of the Bylaws adopted August 5, 2011 by the District Council for New York City and Vicinity of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America set forth requirements that members must meet in order to serve as Shop Stewards.  This section provides that:

 (D) All Shop Stewards must have on file at the Office of the Inspector General, a copy of the “Shop Steward Code of Ethics.” Any Shop Steward not having this Code of Ethics on file will not be dispatched as Shop Steward and their Shop Steward credentials will be suspended until the Code of Ethics is on file.

(E) All Shop Stewards must have on file at the Office of the Inspector General, a copy of the “Notice of Acknowledgement Regarding Background Investigation” authorizing a background check.  Any Shop Steward not having such notice will not be dispatched as Shop Steward and their Shop Steward and their Shop Steward credentials will be suspended until the Notice of Acknowledgement is on file.

In order to ensure these requirements are met and to provide you with some additional information, the required forms are available for download on this website or can be obtained at the District Council or your Local Union office.  The Office of the Inspector General must receive the requested materials no later than December 3, 2012.  After this date, any Shop Steward that has not submitted the requested material will not be dispatched as a Shop Steward until the material has been received.

Download forms here:

Instruction and Important Notice for all Shop Stewards

Shop Steward Contact Information Form

Notice and Acknowledgement Regarding Background Check for Shop Steward
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bulldog88
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Its Amazing How OUR DELEGATES INVENTED A New Rule Called (UNCERTIFIED SHOP STEWARDS Are Allowed On (2 MAN JOBS).....The RULE Violates The SHOP STEWARD REQUIRMENTS In The BYLAWS...The Bylaws Were Never Amended For The New RULE..... This New RULE VIOLATES The Consent Decree.. ....Then The District Council Lawyer Presents This RULE To The JUDGE....Section 39 BYLAWS....(A)
 
All Stewards shall be appointed by the Council Delegate Body or its duly-authorized designee in a fair and equitable manner consistent with job referral rules and theConsent Decree entered in
United States v. District Council, et al
., 90 Civ. 5722, and anyother applicable order issued pursuant to that case.(B)
 
Stewards shall be members of the District Council in good standing and beappointed according to their skills and position on the out of work list.(C)
 
The Council may require workers who desire to serve as a Steward to complete theUBC’s Comprehensive Steward Training Program; have five (5) years journey level experience inthe construction industry; and to provide the Council a declaration of eligibility to serve as a ShopSteward, attesting that they have not been convicted of any crime which would make themineligible to serve as a Shop Steward under Section 504 of the Labor Management Reporting andDisclosure Act of 1959.

 
 
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(D)
 
All Shop Stewards must have on file at the office of the Inspector General, a copyof the "Shop Steward Code of Ethics.” Any Shop Steward not having this Code of Ethics on filewill not be dispatched as Shop Steward and their Shop Steward credentials will be suspended untilthe Code of Ethics is on file.
(E)
 
All Shop Stewards must have on file at the Office of the Inspector General, a copyof the "Notice of Acknowledgement Regarding Background Investigation" authorizing a background check. Any Shop Steward not having such notice will not be dispatched as ShopSteward and their Shop Steward credentials will be suspended until the Notice of Acknowledgement is on file.
(F)
 
 No worker shall be referred from the out-of-work list out of turn to fill aSteward position.(G)
 
All Stewards must take the District Council eight (8) hour certification class andcomplete the 2001 Skill Set Training. In addition to the UBC’s Comprehensive Steward TrainingProgram and the required working experience provided under this section, the following skill setsshall be required of any worker who desires to serve as a Steward.
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dockbuilder
This is not a new rule only for carpenters. the dockbuilder portion of 1556 has been getting away with this for over a year now. the rep comes down and appoints who ever is on the job as the shop steward experience and loyalty to the union need not apply. they sighn the criminal background letter and they are good to go. Most of our contractors will not take a steward off the list for obvious reasons. These companies will keep the job down to 2 men and have the laborer do the rest this will cost jobs and man hours. This happens every day in dockbuilder world. Dennis Walsh started allowing this at Mike Bilellos request because this was a non starter in the negotiations in the gca contract. A few of us have complained to Walsh and one has written a letter to judge berman. This fell on deaf ears on both counts.
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bulldog88
Thanks For The Info Dockbuilder!!!....(1) Mike Billello EST Has No Authority To INVENT A Rule Called Non Certified Stewards On 2 Man Jobs Because It Conflicts With The Bylaws.....Only The Delegates Can Change The Bylaws Correct?.....I  Repeat What I Said In Shorter Version....(1) In The Proposed Wall & Ceiling Agreement The Delgates Inserted a New Rule Called (Uncertified Company Men As Stewards)....This Rule Violates The Bylaws....The Bylaws State That Stewards Must Be Certified....Attend School....And Have Background Criminal Checks....(2) All Stewards shall be appointed by the Council Delegate Body or its duly-authorized designee in a fair and equitable manner consistent with job referral rules and the Consent Decree entered in
United States v. District Council, et al
., 90 Civ. 5722, ......(3)In The Compliance Provisions For Full Mobility The Lawyer For The District Council Also Mentions This (Illegal Invented Rule)....Called Non Certified Stewards On 2 Man Jobs....in a Very Small Sentence....The Lawyer Then Rambles on And Explains To The Judge How The New Full Mobility Program Will Require That Stewards  Attend Classes To Learn The New Technology...A Shop Steward suspected of failing accurately to report personnel or hours will be subject to review under the existing District Council Bylaws and procedures for reviewing issues related to Shop Steward performance, with possible additional training or forfeiture of Shop Steward certification. A Shop Steward found to have deliberately misreported personnel or hours would also be subject to removal as a Shop Steward by the District Council, to veto from the Shop Steward position by the Review Officer, and to referral of his and the employer's misconduct to law enforcement. ........I REPEAT .......THE FULL MOBILITY CIRCUS IS COMING TO NEW YORK!!!!
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BIG AL2
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That's another free ride for the 'connected' one$ and now the domino's are starting to fall faster for the Union members who depend on the out-of-work-list (OWL) aka a night owl. We should make a gig for comedy central about the O-W-L (who-who...everyone getting screwed that's who).

I'd like to talk to you or any other carpenter about "dead hours" i.e. only banked 190-hours for the quarter and get ZERO, NADDAH, NOTHING? Dam someone is making BILLION$ off our 'working members' blood, sweat, and tears from coast to coast. That gig is like lotto for the suits, no wonder BA jobs are a dog-fight to land!

BIG AL2
EMAIL: 608busted@yahoo.com
Tel: 347-574-2540
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BIG AL2
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"All Stewards shall be appointed"

The operative word is 'appointed' (by the night-'owl' regime).
Once again it's not really what they know but who they blow.

Any members that want to start a class-action law suit in Civil Court (not the Kangaroo Court on the 9th floor) to defend 'members rights' are welcome to contact me. I think the time for a reorganization is front and center NOW and in front of an impartial District Judge is the only way for blue collar members to be heard as equals. IMHO.

BIG AL2
email: 608busted@yahoo.com
Tel: 347-574-2540

ps
The up-front cost for the attorney is $15,000.00 because I already inquired.
It won't be easy but anything worth while is never easy...
 until you're willing to shake rattle and rock n roll.
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phil degash
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up here in local 279, we have a lifer shop steward, brother to the president, that can't even spell his own name.
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32 years in the union
To use the term NOW is revealing. In the 80's you constantly had company men as shop stewards. How else could there have been so many cash jobs.  
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FED UP
Council reps appointing stewards has been proven for decades to be the seeds of corruption.....
WHY IS HIS GOING ON WHEN THE DISTRICT COUNCIL LOOKS LIKE A POLICE PRECINCT AND WE ARE PAYING MILLIONS FOR LAWYERS???????????????
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rally524
Compare language from the March 12, 2013 signed WC&C CBA:

ARTICLE VI
[...]
HIRING SCHEDULE
[ ... ]

Section 2.(b)   For jobs only requiring two (2) employees, the Employer will be permitted to work without a certified shop steward without time limitation.   Any employee who is not a member of the District Council will be matched 1:1 from the District Council's Job Referral List.   The Union will assign one (1) of the (2) members with the duties of the shop steward.   In the event of any violation of the two (2) man rule (i.e. not reporting the job and/or employing more than two Carpenters without a Shop Steward), the contractor will lose this privilege for the remainder of the term of the contract.   If there is a third employee dispatched by the District Council's Job Referral List, that employee shall be a certified shop steward and the shop steward will remain for the duration of that project.   This is not to be used as a "head start." An arbitrator is empowered to award as remedy for a deliberate violation of the "head start" provision the loss of the Employer's privilege hereunder for the reminder of the term of the contract.  


To the language in the March 2012, Member ratified, HASTA CBA:


AGREEMENT made and entered into this 1st day of July 2011
and effective as of July 1, 2011, between:

THE HOISTING TRADE ASSOCIATION
OF NEW YORK, INCORPORATED
ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS’ FIRMS
HEREIN REFERRED TO AS
(THE “TRADE ASSOCIATION” and/or THE “EMPLOYER”)

and the

NEW YORK CITY AND VICINITY
DISTRICT COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS
HEREIN REFERRED TO AS
(THE “UNION” and/or THE “DISTRICT COUNCIL”)

[ ... ]

ARTICLE III
PRINCIPLES

Section 7. Each company signed to the Hod Hoist Agreement shall have a roving Shop Steward for jobs of fifteen (15) days or less. The roving Steward will be selected by the Union and shall be certified by the NYC District Council of Carpenters. The roving Shop Steward shall have at least three years experience working with Scaffolding and Sidewalk Shed. This can be determined by thenumber of hours he/she has worked for a signatory scaffold company. The number of hours which shall constitute a year shall be 1,200 hours. When a signatory Employer wishes to lay off a roving Shop Steward during continuous employment, the Employer must notify the Union and have a meeting with the Union. If termination takes place a letter must be sent to the Union.

A roving Shop Steward may not be used on any SCA/PLA projects. Each SCA/PLA project will require a dispatched Shop Steward from the OWL.

 The roving Shop Steward cannot be used on a project which is greater than fifteen (15) days. On such projects, the Union shall dispatch a Shop Steward from the OWL.

The roving Shop Steward shall be employed by the contractor at all times provided they have crews working, other than the exclusions stated above. The roving Shop Steward shall be entitled to work all overtime, where possible. However, when an entire crew, of which the Shop Steward is not a part, is to work overtime, it is not required that a member of that crew be bumped or replaced, in order to make room for the Steward.

For all jobs greater than fifteen (15) days, the Union shall dispatch a Shop Steward to the jobsite. Fifteen (15) days shall be counted as consecutive days for installation, or for dismantling, or for alterations, or for repairs, allowing for weather or jobsite conditions. The company shall notify the Union of the installation or dismantling or alterations or repairs for each jobsite. For the selection of the Shop Steward, the company should request from theOWL a certified Shop Steward with the necessary skills.

If a company is found in violation of not requesting a Shop Steward for jobs greater than fifteen (15) days, it shall pay the next available Shop Steward from the OWL from the time when the job started for all days worked. Multiple violations will be reviewed and adjudicated by Labor Management and a penalty will be determined for any violation of this agreement.

The Shop Steward must have the necessary skills and be able to perform the work assigned to him/her.

The Shop Steward shall be given sufficient time to perform his/her duties assigned to them by the District Council. All New York City District Council certified Shop Steward reports must be faxed and mailed to the Union hall every week and they must be signed by the foreman on that job until such time that an appropriate scanning device is put in place.

Mobility Language to be added.


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bulldog88
Thanks For Posting That Info RALLY 524......The District Council BYLAWS Evidently Dont Mean ANYTHING To These Guys......(1) When You Have RULES For STEWARDS Written In The BYLAWS...The Only Way To Change Those Rules For Stewards Is To AMEND The BYLAWS....And That Is NOT Being DONE.....(2) We Now Have Different STEWARD RULES ALL OVER THE PLACE......Stewards Who Must Attend School And Be CERTIFIED And Go On JOBS Through The OWL.....UNCERTIFIED COMPANY MEN As Stewards On 2 Man JOBS Who DONT Have To ATTTEND School......Roving Shop Steward for jobs of fifteen (15) days or less.......
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bRAVO
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I really didn't hear about it but the way the foreman on jobs acts with the shop steward seems that the BA are allowing the foreman to discriminate against stewards. DC are not backing up their stewards rather they are throwing us under the bus,
DC are selling us out to the contractors.
We as a union member are not good enough for the company we work for?
We are not skilled enough for the company we work for?
We are not educated enough for the company we work for?
Then what it is we suppose to do?
FIX
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FIX
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This can not be news to you or anyone as informed as you are bulldog. Now its an issue? After all there was a two week notification this was coming down the cba pike, or in the words of DW the most publicly & throughouly released of its kind in the UBC. No one thought to certify these guys? Bullshit. The "democratic function capability according to Bullelo/McInnis and DW let this one by on purpose.
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rally524
Re: "Fix"

It's no surprise to anyone; we're all cynics by now, in this union-- we knew stewards were the next target (after OWL) for termination. If you were in the field experiencing this head-on, instead of tracing abstractions, the agony we speak of would be real life, not conceptual. Maybe if you had become a steward-- to advocate on the front line-- instead of from box seat, the "I told you so" routine would seem vain and trite, as it is.
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tester
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"Why You Must Recognize and Understand Coercion

What Is Coercion?
My dictionary (Webster's New Collegiate) defines coerce as:

To restrain or dominate by nullifying individual will;
To compel to an act or choice;
To enforce or bring about by force or threat."    

http://www.mind-trek.com/reports/misc/coercion.htm
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Re: The Carpenters Union Now Allows (Company Men) To Act as Shop Stewards...Without Requiring ANY Shop Steward Certifications!!!

Eat my Ass all of you DC Shitbags
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Now we can have felons , mobsters, and other scammer types reporting hours cause its ok. They promise to be good this time around no funny stuff. I want every member to think about what got us into this mess and why would we walk down the very same road and expect different? Its ironic that super shitpot Dennis Walsh is walking with the DC on this cause hes supposed to prevent corruption not create as he has colluded to do with this FAKE Compliance program. The Judge is another useless shitpot on the take as well. Welcome to FACISM by Dennis Mussolinin and Judge Richard McCarron Berman. Judge Berman doesnt understand basic arithmetic 35 letters to 2 letters 35 against full mobility 2 for full mobility what a JERKOFF Berman is.Well let me say FUCK YOU dEnnis Walsh you are a LYING PEICE OF SHIT I wish you a long losing battle with a very painful type of cancer . You fucked thousands of families for your own gain and thats what you deserve you peice of shit.
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Re: The Carpenters Union Now Allows (Company Men) To Act as Shop Stewards...Without Requiring ANY Shop Steward Certifications!!!

screwgun
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give it a rest!!!! no more hand out jobs buddy!!! most stewards became stewards cause they were unable to keep a job as a company man! go harass the non union sector if your looking for work!!! thats where the problem is, not worrying about a two man union job!!! another example why the nycdcc is laughed at by other trades, cause of the ignorance of its members!!!
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