DOUG MCCARRON CANNOT BE NOMINATED FOR OR HOLD UBC OFFICE AND KNOWS IT

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What was the outcome ---SIX YEARS AGO?

A pittance of a fine?

Or was it a "don't run in the playground again" kinda thingy?
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RichardDorrough
The outcome was the retirees were removed from the committee. Despite the declaration by McCarron NO retirees are allowed to run for or hold office if they are collecting ANY pension. Nominations for the June election are Monday night. The local Officers announced last month that no retirees will be allowed to be nominated or run due to Section 31d. Two local Incumbents Christopher Dugan and Michael Shannahan said they did not care what McCarron said everybody knows 31D means ANY pension. As did then Local President William Weir when he denied retirees the right to run or be nominated. Micheal Shanahan has been holding Pro Tem Vice President office for well over a year refusing an election in violation of another McCaron ruling .Despite McCarrons ruling no Pro Tem may stay in office more than 6 months they have refused an election...The REAL outcome is we have something from the DOL in writing that says Doug McCarron cannot be holding office or running for office..The important part is Doug McCarron was given this ruling before he ran for and took office in 2010.  cc: Douglas J McCarron,
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Daniel J. Franco
Do you have evidence that Doug McCarron, and/or any other current UBCJA General Executive Board (GEB) member, is receiving "a pension under the United Brotherhood of Carpenters Pension Plan" and/or a pension via some other UBCJA 'subordinate body'?
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So as I see it, and please don't misunderstand this as ugly banter, but the latter seems to be the resulting scenario.

DOL: "Please Mr. McCarron be careful and don't do it again".

Its all well and good you've got something in writing, but you've owned that for six years and ???????.

Yes Daniel, McCarron is a sociopath!

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Doug McCarron admitted on video that he is collecting his SWRCC Pension. Its posted on You Tube
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Its all well and good you've got something in writing, but you've owned that for six years and ???????.

  No I have not owned it for 6 years the rank and file have owned it for 6 years. It has been posted in many different public mediums including this site for years. It was not until 9/20/2013 that Doug Mccarron admitted to collecting a pension... So whats fair is to say is  both pieces of the puzzle have been public knowledge for 1 year and 8 months and ?????
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??????......and not even Richard durrough has done anything with it although he's a sworn enemy of at least one of the mccarron clan.

NY's,  of which I was but one of the most vocal dead set against the USAO' renview officer ust has their asses handed to them resulting from the fight against the feds and the council hacks which subsided just that long ago. We've been looking for a concerted bunch headed for the forced removal of CEO McCarrron and his band of thieves, where is it, why isn't IT?

Hell we put up a blow up rat across the street from our council and chanted against the UBC.
Any and all decisions he has made during this time of illegally collecting needs to overturned.

One caveat: Mike McCarron can not be supported even if victorious against his brother in court. Was he screaming Doug is illegally collecting his pension prior to his legal battle, I believe not.

I did ask however, what was the penalty in regards to the DOL's decision?
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"??????......and not even Richard durrough has done anything with it" Actually you dont know what Richard Dorrough HAS or IS doing with "it" or anything else. What he has been doing from that day to this is putting the ruling out there for all to see and for all to use. From that day to this he has been providing the proof to members that they can stand up and sign their name and they will survive the retribution that will come. But WHY is it Richard Dorroughs responsibility to do anything with it. Where are the rest of the signatures..

The FACT is the grievance and charges have been crafted, written and the supporting documents collected. And it has been signed. All that is missing is the rest of the signatures. I have a pen. Are you in??? The DOL ruling has been posted for 6 years.As I said it has only been 1 year and 8 months since Doug McCarron has admitted to collecting his pension. Yu have no idea what actions Richard Dorrough has taken with this information or “anything” he has done with it. It has ONLY been over the last year that the chinks in the UBC Armour have been exposed enough to get the members past the booga booga factor.

   "Hell we put up a blow up rat across the street from our council and chanted against the UBC". Wow . How long did it take you to live down that embarrassment. All that did was show the public one blow up rat is as damaging to a groups credibility as another.

   
      The fact is Doug McCarron is collecting a pension. That makes his holding office a violation of the UBC Constitution and the LMRDA. That is grievance 1. Grievance 1 will also ask for an investigation into any other Pension Doug McCarron or any member of the International Executive Board members may have or may be collecting.

  The fact is Doug McCarron is using Union funds to pay for legal fees for this court case and the UBC membership are paying legal fees for Justin Weidner, Dan McDonald and others. They are also  paying for the legal fees of NON UNION members Peter Aylward and others. This is grievance 2 . Grievance 2 will also ask who paid for the legal fess of UBC lawyers Decarlo and Shanley when they represented Doug McCarrons daughter in her divorce. Also who paid Decalro and Shanley for Dougs car dancer son and Colorado.

“I did ask however, what was the penalty in regards to the DOL's decision”
And you were told that the resolution by the DOL was that the Retirees were removed and barred form any future involvement prohibited under 31 D. Which part dont you get.

"Mike McCarron can not be supported even if victorious against his brother in court."

That is your "opinion" and I only comment on it to make the point that YOU dont speak for everybody or anybody but you. The fact is NOBODY EVER said Mike McCarron would remove his brother and replace him. Mike McCarron made no such claim. That was just plain BS and could not happen despite anybody’s desire to spread misinformation and BS. So what support do you speak of?? The Mike McCarron case is not important for Mike McCarron, although so far he has shown to have the biggest set of  balls and has invested the most and sacrificed the most to fight and expose Doug McCarron. The Mike McCarron case DOES and WILL serve the members as it will expose Doug McCarron and his cronies for what they are in district court. The rulings that will come out of it will benefit the members. The recent decision by the Judge to allow the Council and UBC lawyers to be sued is huge for members. The ruling that they are indeed liable for their actions as legal counsel for the SWRCC ad the UBC is huge for the members

"Was he screaming Doug is illegally collecting his pension prior to his legal battle,
 I believe not"

    You believe WRONG. He and OTHERS, WHO HAVE ALSO BEEN FIRED, were speaking out about it. They were challenging the SWRCC over wording in the "Special Amendment 2 which they thought gave ONLY Doug McCarron the right to collect his pension and keep his office. That was misguided . Special Amdnement 2 punishes any retiree who went to work for an AFL-CIO affiliated entity regardless of the field. Special 2 gave the SWRCC retirees the right to keep their pension and work in the trade outside the jurisdictional area of the SWRCC. No matter how misguided it was they did speak out against it. They were screaming about forced mergers and refused them. They continued to build training centers when Dougy demanded all funds be sunk into his training center in the land of oz.. They joined the long line that had formed to get the funds out of ULLICO Separate J and got the votes to take the SWRCC out of ULLICO Separate J . They objected to investments demanded by Doug McCarron with SWRCC funds such as Blackstone Capital and  Hamilton Lane. They objected to the moves McCarron and Ed Durkin have been making , and still are making, to take away all the power from fund Trustees and put it in the hands of outside investment counselors. Mike McCaron was making a move to FIRE Doug McCarrons pals at Decarlo and Shanley. That meal ticket was worth $2.7 million plus  for JUST one year JUST for the SWRCC for Decarlo and Shanley  “They” are Mike McCarron, Ron Scheon and others from the SWRCC and its funds  who with Mike McCarron have all been fired. The fact is they did object to Doug Mccarrons girlfriend being given a $66,000 raise and perks. In the video on You Tube that Doug admits to collecting his pension he also admits Sandra Maloney did indeed get the $66,000 but claims Segal gave it to her. He also demanded she was not his girlfriend. Funny but for three years she gave his house in Las Vegas as her place of residence. Now she has been given yet another raise and promotion.. The fact is as executer of the mothers estate Mike McCarron has asked about ULLICO and the details surrounding Doug McCarrons involvement and his mothers involvement in the ULLICO fraud. The Fact is asking these questions has made the UBC lawyers crap their pants. The fact is the UBC lawyers believe Mike McCarron has ULLICO documents and that is making them crap their pants. ULLICO is not a personal issue and McCarron family issue it is a UBC member issue since what is clear is it is not over yet..

      The UBC Lawyers have now told the court that the reasons they gave to the DOL to remove Mike McCarron from Office were false. The UBC Lawyers have now told the court that the reasons they gave to the DOL to impose a trusteeship on the SWRCC were false. They have told the court the overcharges Mike Draper ranted about at the 14 D Trial and were used to find Mike McCarron guilty and expelled him never happened . The UBC lawyers have now told the court that Ed Ripley training fund director and the person who claimed Mike Mccarron overcharged the Traing fund is guilty of graft. The UBC lawyers have now told the court that Ed Ripley training fund director and the person who demanded payments for overcharges was paid off. The District Court has now ruled that Ed Ripley and the Training fund have taken money form the SWRCC that does not belong to them. THIS is what members need to see from the Mike McCarron case. The example of how far the UBC will go to persecute anybody who opposes them so they may learn form it and have proof to present to the courts when it is their turn. This is the importance of the Mike McCarron case.
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Time for Doug to Go